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Post by charleyfarley on May 10, 2021 17:25:09 GMT
Can anybody help me diagnose what's wrong with the Miller horn on my Norman Nippy? When I press the horn button I get a short 'bip', but not a continuous tone. The electromagnetic coil is working fine and attracts the metal disc down onto the electromagnet, and the disc simultaneously touches the two big metal contacts that sit outside the coil. Presumably, when the disc touches the two big metal contacts it is supposed to earth the flow of electricity, thereby causing the magnetism to collapse and the metal disc springs away; only it doesn't earth it. In fact, there is no measurable voltage in either the core of the electromagnet nor the two big contacts to the side of the coil, so there's no flow of electricity to be earthed, therefore no switching mechanism. I'm now very confused as to what's broken - could be anything after 40 years in a leaky shed preceded by years of abuse! Two photos are attached of the inside of the horn. Anyone got any idea what's wrong here? Thanks in advance for any thoughts. Charles Fox Attachments:
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Post by JamesCentral on May 10, 2021 17:43:04 GMT
there is no measurable voltage in either the core of the electromagnet nor the two big contacts to the side of the coil, so there's no flow of electricity to be earthed, therefore no switching mechanism. That's as it should be ... it's an AC horn so it just relies on the fluctuating current to vibrate the diaphragm. There's very little to go wrong in these, which makes it hard to diagnose the fault - maybe the diaphragm has lost some of it's springiness? Or have either the electromagnet core or the disc become magnetised?
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Post by davwat on May 10, 2021 17:57:18 GMT
You haven't got the lights switched on at the same time have you?
It was either a Nippy or a Quickly (neither being Nippy or Quick) I was playing with recently wasn't putting out enough power to operate the lights and horn at the same time.
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Post by matthew on May 11, 2021 7:17:13 GMT
Is it an AC / DC problem? AC horn not operating on DC? I have no idea.
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Post by charleyfarley on May 13, 2021 14:58:25 GMT
All resolved now, so thanks for the ideas. It was caused by a combination of internal rust, loose connection internally, and me trying to test an AC circuit using a 6v DC battery. Durrr.... I should have listened in physics lessons. Works a treat now! Thanks.
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